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Seder Moed Taanis Perek 4 Mishnah 6 Part of: The Churban › Movement I
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The five calamities of the 17th of Tammuz and Tisha B’Av

This Mishnah lists five events on each of two fast days, pairing them so the losses of each date are read together — form carrying the meaning.
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חֲמִשָּׁה דְבָרִים אֵרְעוּ אֶת אֲבוֹתֵינוּ בְּשִׁבְעָה עָשָׂר בְּתַמּוּז וַחֲמִשָּׁה בְּתִשְׁעָה בְאָב. בְּשִׁבְעָה עָשָׂר בְּתַמּוּז נִשְׁתַּבְּרוּ הַלּוּחוֹת, וּבָטַל הַתָּמִיד, וְהֻבְקְעָה הָעִיר, וְשָׂרַף אַפּוֹסְטֹמוֹס אֶת הַתּוֹרָה, וְהֶעֱמִיד צֶלֶם בַּהֵיכָל.
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TranslationFive things happened to our fathers on the seventeenth of Tammuz, and five on the ninth of Av. On the seventeenth of Tammuz the Luchos were shattered, the Tamid was discontinued, the City was breached, Apostomos burned the Torah, and an idol was set up in the Heichal…
Mishnah Insight the “why”
The Mishnah could have listed ten disasters in any order. Instead it groups five to each date — and the meforshim ask what binds each group. Notice that the seventeenth of Tammuz items each mark a breach: of the Luchos, of the avodah, of the city wall, of the Torah, of the sanctity of the Heichal. The date is being taught as the day boundaries fell.
See the structure — The five & five
What happened on each date?
17 Tammuz9 Av
נִשְׁתַּבְּרוּ הַלּוּחוֹתנִגְזַר עַל אֲבוֹתֵינוּ שֶׁלֹּא יִכָּנְסוּ לָאָרֶץ
בָּטַל הַתָּמִידחָרַב הַבַּיִת בָּרִאשׁוֹנָה וּבַשְּׁנִיָּה
הֻבְקְעָה הָעִירנִלְכְּדָה בֵּיתָר
שָׂרַף אַפּוֹסְטֹמוֹס אֶת הַתּוֹרָהנֶחְרְשָׁה הָעִיר
She’elas Chacham — a question to carry
The list ends with an idol “set up in the Heichal” — the deepest breach of all. Why does the Mishnah place it last among the five, after the breach of the city and the burning of the Torah? What might it be saying about the order in which sanctity is lost?
Olamo shel Mishna — the world behind the words
The Tamid was the twice-daily communal offering — the heartbeat of the Beis HaMikdash. To say it “was discontinued” is not a scheduling note: it marks the day the daily rhythm of avodah stopped for the first time since the Bayis stood. Knowing what the Tamid was changes how the phrase lands.
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BartenuraDefines the case
הֻבְקְעָה הָעִיר. בבית שני, בחורבן שבנה טיטוס…
Tosafos Yom TovWhy this order?
חמשה דברים. פירש הר"ב… ומקשה למה מנה תחלה של תמוז…
Series Insight The Churban
Across this series, watch how each Mishnah marks a boundary — between the Bayis standing and gone, between what ceased and what was preserved. This first Mishnah sets the frame: five losses, named and dated, so the destruction enters the Mishnah not as history, but as halacha.
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