Rosh Hashana 1:5 — When Everyone Saw It Too

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נושא · Topicבֵּין שֶׁנִּרְאָה בַעֲלִילWhen Everyone Saw It Too
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Mishnah ראש השנה א׳:ה׳ · Rosh Hashana 1:5
בֵּין שֶׁנִּרְאָה בַעֲלִיל בֵּין שֶׁלֹּא נִרְאָה בַעֲלִיל,
מְחַלְּלִין עָלָיו אֶת הַשַּׁבָּת,
רַבִּי יוֹסֵי אוֹמֵר, אִם נִרְאָה בַעֲלִיל,
אֵין מְחַלְּלִין עָלָיו אֶת הַשַּׁבָּת:
Whether it was seen ba'alil — high and clear, where anyone could see it — or was not seen ba'alil,
they may be mechallel Shabbos for it, violating Shabbos in order to testify.
R' Yosi says: If it was seen ba'alil,
they may not be mechallel Shabbos for it.
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בַּעֲלִילhigh, and plain to everyoneeveryone is already looking up — so are these two witnesses still needed?מְחַלְּלִין עָלָיו אֶת הַשַּׁבָּתTanna Kamma — they go either wayאֵין מְחַלְּלִיןR' Yosi — not when it stood plain
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When Everyone Saw It Too
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The moon stood ba'alil, where all could see it — may these witnesses still be mechallel Shabbos?Tanna Kamma: Yes
R' Yosi: No
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בַעֲלִיל — clearly visible

A genuinely rare word: once in Tanach, and rare in tannaitic literature. The Gemara, brought in Tosafos Yom Tov, explains it from that one pasuk, כסף צרוף בעליל לארץ (Tehillim 12), שפירושו גלוי לכל — open to all. Rambam gives the astronomy of the two cases: sometimes the new moon stands high and large in clear air for all to see, and sometimes it hides near the sunset's redness, עד שלא ישיגנו אלא אדם שראות עיניו חד, so that only a sharp-eyed man attains it.

רַבִּי יוֹסֵי אוֹמֵר — Rabbi Yosi says

Rabbi Yosi accepts the dispensation itself; he narrows the case. If the moon was plainly visible, Bartenura explains, דודאי ראו אותה בירושלים — the court certainly saw it too, so this witness's Shabbos travel buys nothing: we can assume somebody else will bring it. Rambam states the consequence: אין צריכין לעדים ולפיכך אין מחללין. And both close alike: אין הלכה כרבי יוסי.

אִם נִרְאָה בַעֲלִיל, אֵין מְחַלְּלִין — if clearly seen, they do not override

Melechet Shlomo brings the Gemara's pairing: Rabbi Yosi here and Rabbi Yishmael on the omer, who has it brought on Shabbos from three se'ah rather than a finer five — אמרו דבר אחד, they said one thing: where the need is already met, Shabbos is not stretched further. And the Gemara's own distinction points a mishnah ahead: אבל הכא גבי לבנה דאיכא מכשילן לע"ל — by the moon there is the stumbling-of-the-future concern, the same words Rabban Gamliel will say to Rabbi Akiva in the next mishnah.

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